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May 08, 2008

Bobert, Live From Oklahoma City On May 7

Bobert Sturgell, the "Dead Man Walking" and very poorly "Acting" Administrator of the Failed Aviation Administration, made a not-so-surprise visit to the FAA Brain Drainer, the Academy in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

Here is the audio of that event, which you know happened less than 24 hours ago.  It's almost fifteen meg so be patient.

Download sturgell.mp3

I'm surprised they didn't look for me sitting there, disguised as a student.  I'm retired and flush, so I only need about twenty-four hours notice to throw together a costume and get to where the action is.  Anchorage, Oklahoma City, you name it, I'll get it.  I threw up in my mouth several times listening to Bobert's gig, as you will, but sometimes you have to wade through a lot of slop to get to the pigs.  And trust me...there's a whole-lotta-oinking going on here.  For those who haven't done so yet----and there are about 8700 of you...

<===Click the ChipIn link and throw some money in the kitty.  This kind of bitch-slapping ain't cheap, you know?  Airline tickets, Ramen noodles for a week, unpaid bills piling up...it ain't easy impersonating an Academy kid!  Click it, and gimme some money.  Please.

I love listening to this joker blow smoke up everybody's asses, droning on about "FAA credibility," to which he adds, "especially internationally!"  Put the pom poms down, there, Francis.  The FAA has less credibility than Charles Manson.   

He uses the union as a shield when talking about tuition reimbursement, and he can't even describe the program.  He does, however, try to split the bargaining unit AGAIN by saying they will be only for new hires...not current controllers.  Coward.  But I have to hand it to him...he is accustomed to the union giving him a photo op or political cover, so it's no surprise to see him hide behind NATCA's apron strings in front of the new hires.  I can only hope they have been reading the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth here and at FAA Follies and other blogs. 

He says the Agency wanted to have a voluntary agreement during contract talks.  Liar.  His team walked out, tail between their legs, while I was on the phone with the Director of the FMCS, extending our mediation period.  His talking points on pay sound like Marion Blakey with a shorter nose and a rumpled suit.  He quotes mid-90 thousand as a salary after five years, which is a pipe dream and another lie. 

Ventris Gibson yanks the students chain regarding military benefits, a program she is completely clueless about.  This from a washed up Navy Wave who didn't finish her hitch, bailing out on a hearing disability.  I hope she can read better than she can hear.  Here, let's test it.  Ventris:  bite me.

Bobert had a hell of a lot to say for somebody that should be pricing packing and moving quotes.  I mean, seriously:  he has about as much chance of getting confirmed as FAA Administrator as I do.  Actually...that's not true.  I still have a fairly decent shot.  He has none.  And with that in mind...Bobert has seven and a half months left with car, driver and tenth floor suite.  Then, it's hasta la vista, Bobby.  Where will he go?  Somewhere that he has influenced as Acting, that's for sure.  Right, Marion?

What a waste of time his lecture on user fees was!  Bobbeh.....Bobbeh.....haven't you followed the papers?  There is NO CHANCE of your funding scheme of "Three Card Monte." That fish was given up for dead before Elvira left office.  She couldn't get that crusted turd past Congress, even with her fake southern accent.  You have absolutely NO shot.  None.  Give it up.  You sound stupid to continue to discuss it like it was viable.  Hey, let's discuss getting a ticket for a ride on the Hindenberg next week! 

He mentions that they "weren't quite prepared" in a lot of facilities for the influx of trainees.  Yeah, I can see how that might happen.  AFTER ALL, YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN WARNED ABOUT THE RETIREMENT CRISIS BY THE UNION SINCE 2000 OR SO, AND ABOUT BAD STAFFING SINCE 1987.  Shock, surprise, disbelief.  Ignorance. 

Hmmmm.   Let me cypher:  1981 + 25 years of service = retirement wave at 2006.  Just like we told them.  So truly, the morons running this joke of an agency have only known they were going to have an influx of trainees in the mid-2000's since approximately ten am on August 5, 1981. 

How many new hires made it, he's asked?  Because even the students know they are not air traffic controllers.  They are STUDENTS.  And who are you comparing our pay to, the questioner wants to know?  Listen closely to Bobill's answers to these two questions.  You will never see someone doing the Macarena on the head of a pin like Dead Man Walking does on these two questions.  Unfortunately...if you are looking for real answers to the questions...you might as well look in your shorts.  There's as much info there as there is on this tape.

Enough of my commentary....listen for yourself. 

WARNING!  WARNING!  WARNING!

This is 45 minutes of your life you will NEVER get back.  I not only wasted my time listening to this windbag gas these poor students, but then I had to create a blogful of mockery, spite, venom, hatred, jocularity, sarcasm, wit, and a generous dollop of exaggeration. 

Enjoy this, to the extent that you enjoyed watching Dorothy staring at the hourglass as the sands ran out of the top.  It's almost time for the flying monkeys (Bruce, the Douche, Day, Ventris et. al) to take wing and spread this gospel to the poor saps who made the mistake of walking into these haunted woods in the first place.

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All I can say is wow...

Way to go Agent C.

I didn't want to listen to the audio. I'm on an RDO and would like to go a whole day without listening to a jackass or a bullshit artist. Maybe a couple days from now.

How about we just play this back to Bobby and Ventris when they are either gone or the system collapses.....whichever happens first ?

Fuck this motherfucker. He took the Citation out there. If I could have gotten away with it, I'd have vectored his ass right into the chop.

Bet they have body scanners and pat down searches at the next event to prevent recordings.

Listen carefully from the 24:00 minute mark on, the FAA is very close adopting an "up, or out" type policy. If the present course continues, the air traffic controller position will become a McJob, by design.....

For all you smug FAAMA types, better take a look to your left and your right, because one of you won't be there at retirement. Don't believe me, check out the "promotion pyramid" at any military personnel site.

Careerism is the up and coming word of the day at the FAA.

If you choose not to participate, plan accordingly!

Again, if a course correction isn't made, 5 years from now the FAA will morph into something unrecognizable.

Yes Bobby just waddle your way down to the academy from the puzzle palace and brainwash the young and innocent and fill them full of hopeful lies. It reminds me of the comment Bobba made recently that the FAA is going to be "All different faces" soon.

Translated lets get rid of the over 40 white males who know what they are doing and hire an entire new crop of sycophants we can bullshit and lie to. I believe the FAA is underestimating the intelligence of the new FAA employees. I am sure they won't buy the lies and BS either.

FAA management must pay the new controllers Taco Bell wages so they can hire more assistants to the assistants to the assistants at sheet cake land.

BULLDOZE FAA HQ and start over

Vote another Republican in office and see how much worse things can get.

I'm impressed that a new probationary employee had the guts to sneak in a recorder.

There's something about Bobert voice that is quite grating. I could only listen for a few minutes. Did he fly in with the SafeAir callsign, or go incognito ?

United must be very happy to have unloaded him from their payroll.

Tony Williams
Airline Pilot

The BTC PulsePoll blogged over the last few days, has now tallied over ONE THOUSAND votes. As of this writing, 96.6% of all those voting agree it is time for FAA senior management, that is, "Bobby" Sturgell, to resign. 96.6% is an astoundingly high poll number. Ironically, 96.6% asymptotically approaches the 99%-safe-flights which "Bobby" Sturgell recently falsely touted to the media and the public in his endeavor to take political cover. Now his cover is blown, and so is his governmental career.

I can't wait until next week for NATCA to come back to town and feed us students with real food, real drinks and real information. Sturgell did nothing to sway my opinion on the FAA. They recorded the whole deal on camera, but after this blog I am sure the FAA won't be posting it on their site as a great PR moment.

"United must be very happy to have unloaded him from their payroll."

And Maryland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert A. Sturgell
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1998, Sturgell attempted to unseat Maryland Senate majority leader Democrat Thomas V. Mike Miller, Jr. in the 27th legislative district.[2] He was defeated 69% to 31%.[3]"

Do you know what the number one killer of controllers is?

Colon Cancer. Why ? Because you go your entire career having smoke blown up your ass!

He mentions NATCA counter offered. Does anybody know what the offer was?

I must say,......Sturgell isn't a very smart man, nor is he a good speaker. These kids coming in hate the FAA already. It is amazing to me that the higher management folks actually believe they are doing the right thing. Nothing will change until a real contract with real signatures in the back of the book are there.

I'm equally shocked that the high number of Airline folks like Sturgell are running the FAA, and these guy's backgrounds dealt with running UNIONS ! How in the hell can these guy's screw over Union Folks ? Listen everybody,......and listen good ! If another Republican get's in office then we are toast. Vote Democrat, and make sure everybody you know does the same thing.

Also, start shunning all these so-called tough guy NATCA folks that can retire but wont. Enough of the nice guy bullshit because it's not working. If you can retire then get the fuck out of here. Refinance that house of yours and get the fuck out. I'm tired of sitting next to you tools at work listening to you bitch, when your the goddamn problem. You talk your shit, and then have the balls to turn to the younger controllers and say that they are all screwed. No,.....your screwed you dumb fuckers.

LISTEN IDIOTS,......No more directs, no more nothing. I dont wanna hear the argument,....(in a whiney-pussy-ass voice) "the airlines didnt do nothing to us". BULLSHIT !! They are sending us all their fucking turn-coats ! FUCK EVERYBODY !

I watch more NATCA tough guys fucking with FLM's then anything else. They are not the ones to show our disgust. Do you actually think were hurting them ? FUCK NO !! They can and do approve our leave, and they are with us in our fight. Let's stop fucking with the ones that dont matter, and start fucking with the ones that can.


Dear Pissed,

I am eligible in 214 days. Yet I will be unable to go. I made my retirement plan based on my situation over 20 years ago and tweaked it a little as things changed. I never planned on retiring before 56. Why would I? I was in a profession that was rewarding, respected, pretty well paid, and I respected myself because I gosh-darned saved hundreds of lives many times. Many times.
Then came 9/3/2006. This will take a lot of tweaking. I may have to stay 18 months past when I am eligible. This does not make me part of the problem. It is just my reaction to the problem. And how would refinancing the house help? Huh?
I do agree at least 75 % of supes are on our side. But they are leaving and syncophants are replacing them. Put yourself in our shoes before you rant. We are not the enemy.

If I was attending a propaganda session like the one Bobby was giving, I'd be sure to take a recorder, especially if I was a new employee. What would I be risking in that case? A chance to wear business casual clothes while being paid fast food wages.

Hey Pissed,

You are an Immature little piss ant ...... grow up and have some respect for your elders.

Yo Willie,

I am an elder. I'll bet your retirement that you get slapped in the face if you called me a piss ant in front of me. You internet tough guys kill me. Now retire and stop helping the system.

Pissed,

It is not your call on when someone plans to retire. They will leave when they plan want not because you have issues. They will bitch until things get better that is how it has always worked. If you don't like hearing to older guys "bitch" then get a sup job and jump the fence. That way you can tell them to shut up. As far as "internet tough guys" you came here and attacked the people that built NATCA and them threaten with a "slap". Well where I come from girls slap and guys like you get the shit kicked out of them, remember there is always someone bigger and badder than you out there. So SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Hey rich almost-ready-to-retire CPCs.

Stop bit*hing.

You people have more money than G-d compared to the n00bs. Get over yourselves and help the newest trinees rather than bitch about "oh, boo hoo, I don't have my $2m nest egg quite yet."

STFU all of you rich pricks, because it certainly isn't helping those who got screwed way more royally than you.

I sure am glad i re enlisted and got a 60k bonus tax free for Air Force air traffic. I was actually going to get out last july but thanks to John Carr and this site, I decided to stay in. I had an offer from the FAA and everything in South Carolina. I feel bad for you new hires. I hope everything gets better as soon as possible for you all.

"Hey rich almost-ready-to-retire CPCs.

Stop bit*hing.

(You can't be a controller (maybe a stup or manager), because all controllers know it's our God given right to bitch)

You people have more money than G-d compared to the n00bs. Get over yourselves and help the newest trinees rather than bitch about "oh, boo hoo, I don't have my $2m nest egg quite yet."

(The newbies are getting trained.....problem is, the hiring pool is so shallow, the experience level nil in some cases, the end results are going to be predictable.....horrendous.)

STFU all of you rich pricks, because it certainly isn't helping those who got screwed way more royally than you."

(STFU.....I think not. Many of the "rich pricks" you refer to, are the same "pricks" who's union dues funded the reclass studies that got us our well deserved pay raises (to include you mgmt fucks). So, exactly which facility are you in management at ? And how many times did you vote for Bush...once or twice ?)


ZZ, I think we got a McPain supporter here.

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